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It’s All In A Conversation

January 19, 2016 | By Dee Ann Rice

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I had an interesting phone conversation with Brent, a new blogger, not long ago.

Brent was contacting me because he is interested in getting a blog started. At the present time Brent is working as a roofer. He loves roofing and being outside all of the time but as he reaches his forties he feels the need to make some supplemental income in order to support his family consisting of 4 children all of whom are either teenagers or getting ready to be.

In order to supplement his income, Brent decided to start a business online. His idea was to start with a blog and move onto making money.

He started out enthusiastic and optimistic but very quickly felt confused and unsure if he had made the right decision. After doing some research online about starting a blog Brent was more frustrated than excited. There were so many conflicting opinions on what to do first, how to blog, how to attract people and how to create an income from a blog he did not know where to start.

Brent began wondering if he had made the right decision to start an online business.

While reading one of my posts Brent decided to contact me so he could ask a real person some of his questions.

Brent asked so many good questions that I thought other beginners would find helpful or interesting I decided to put parts of Brent’s and my conversation in my post this week.

Excerpts From My Conversation With Brent

Brent: How many products did you purchase when you were a beginner blogger before you figured out how to blog?

Me: A lot. Not sure just how many because I did not keep track. I really didn’t want to know how many I was purchasing at the time but, I bet I purchased at 20 and maybe 30.

Brent: How much money did you spend?

Me: In all or on each product?

Brent: Both if you know.

Me: Not sure how much all together but I spent way more than I should have. Also not sure how much on each one because I cannot even remember all of the products that I bought.

The cheaper ones cost $5 to $20 each and the most expensive ones cost $1500 to $2500. Then there were all of the ones in-between. I also did some membership sites where I had to pay monthly and they were between $25 and $50 per month.

Brent: Wow, now I don’t feel so bad. You really paid $2500 for one of the products?

Me: Yes, That was coaching that someone I was taking a course from at the time recommend we do in order to really learn how to get our blogs up, running and successful. It turned out that the coaching was a scam and I eventually did get my money back from it.

The $1500.00 one was a course that really was good and worth the money until I got to the end, needed help and found out the individual help that had been promised did not exist so I was not to happy about that.

Brent: How many times did you buy something and what you received was not what was advertised? What did you do when this happened?

Me: That happened all of the time to me. As I said before about the $2500 coaching, it was a pure scam and nothing that was promised by the guy that sold it to me ever actually took place. In fact when I asked the person coaching me about all of the things I had been promised he told me that none of those things would be included in the coaching. It actually turned out that I knew more than the coach and I did not know much of anything at that point in time. I checked out the coaches website and he had a very poor website.

The $1500 course promised individual help on the phone that was not available and most of the cheaper products very seldom provided what they promised.

Brent: What did you do when what you purchased did not provide what you thought you were buying?

Me: As I said before I ended up getting my money back from the scam and I did return a couple of other products but most of the time I just kept them figuring it was a learning experience. On the cheaper ones I figured if I learned even one thing the product was worth it.

Brent: How did you finally find products that taught you what you wanted to know and you were able to stop spending so much money on products that did not work?

Me: At one point I became a part of a group of about 10 women who all wanted to learn how to get started making money on the Internet. I just happened to fall into this group but it was great.

We had all been spending lots of money on products that did not work so we made the rule: No one in the group could buy a product without talking to at least one other person in the group first. This was great because that person was to tell us not to buy the product until we had run it past everyone else in the group. This put a stop all of the impulse.

Our group had multiple conference calls a week and during these calls we would all share what we were doing and what we wanted to buy. Many times someone else had already bought the product or knew something about it.

Brent: How did you end up figuring out how to blog?

Me: A friend who was in that group I talked about found a product that she ended up purchasing. This product was a membership site that she was paying about $50/month for. She paid the membership for a couple of months and did not use it at all so she gave me the product and continued to pay for it for me for a couple more months.

This was Alex Jeffries course. It was so good I bought my own (my friend canceled because she never did use it) membership. I kept that membership for about 6 months.

Each month new material would be posted to the site. It taught us how to blog from the very beginning. We started with purchasing a domain and hosting. When I quit 6 months down the road we were posting, commenting and starting to implement things to start making some money.

Hard to believe it took me 3 to 4 months to get my first real blog to the point that I was posting weekly and commenting. Of course I actually deleted my whole blog during that time and it took me 3 weeks to get back to where I was.

Brent: After you took Alex’s course how did you continue to learn?

Me: While taking Alex’s course I had made some friends who were also taking his course and then when I started commenting I became a part of a huge blogging community. We all helped each other.

I also took a really great course from Sally Neill which was great. Everything that was promised and more was delivered.

Brent: Are you still a part of a blogging community and is that still important to you?

Me: Yes I am still a part of a blogging community. I have not been as consistent with my posting and commenting recently as I was back then due to some family issues over the past year and a half so I do not have as big of a community as I did then.

I am starting this year committing to being consistent with my blog.

I still network with other people and I have a mastermind call every week with a good friend where we go over what we have been doing, what we plan on doing and problems we are facing. We also keep each other accountable.

Brent: How would you recommend a new blogger today get started blogging and then learn how to attract the right people to their blog?

Me: I would highly recommend hiring a coach. Today there are many more opportunities to hire a coach than there was when I started. Coaching was very costly then. Today you can hire a coach to set up your blog for you and teach you how they did it for well under $100. Then you can hire a coach to teach you how to attract the right audience to your blog. This coach will most likely want to have multiple sessions with you.

All of the coaching by both coaches will be far less than the $1500 to $2500 I spent. Remember, in the end I paid $50/month for 6 months just to get my blog up, running and content on it.

Brent: I plan on hiring you to put up my blog and Adrienne to teach me how to attract the right people but where would I find a coach if I did not know one.

Me: Go start commenting on people’s blog in the niche you want to start a blog in or in the blogging niche. As you read posts you will learn a lot, will be able to start making comments and get to know different bloggers.

Then as you comment you will be able to have conversations with other bloggers. Through these conversations and reading posts you will find bloggers you trust. If you are new and do not know where to find a coach that can be trusted, asking people you trust is the best way to find a good coach that does what you need.

Brent: I am really looking forward to working with you and getting my blog going in the near future. I will be waiting for your instruction sheet so I can start getting together what you need from me in order to put up my blog.

Thank you for answering all of my questions. I loved hearing how you got started and what it was like when you started blogging several years ago.

Me: You are most welcome. I will be sending you an email as soon as we hang up.

There you go. That was some of our conversation. I thought this would be helpful to others.

I hope you enjoyed our conversation no matter where you are on your blogging journey. I love talking to people about blogging, answering questions and helping them to not make some of the gut-wrenching mistakes I made getting to where I am.

I also love helping anyone wanting help getting a blog started.

What About You?

New To Bogging

Are you new to blogging and finding it difficult to get a blog started? Did you find Brent’s questions and my answers interesting? Are you looking for help getting your blog going and wondering where to find help? Maybe you have something to offer to Brent’s and mine conversation. Please leave a comment below and join in the conversation.

Veteran Blogger

Have you been blogging for sometime and have had a lot of the same experiences that I have had? Do you have some more answers to Brent’s questions? Please leave your comment with your answer to Brent’s questions and also join in on our conversation.

Do You Need Help Getting Your Blog Started

I am eager to help you get started so here is what you’ll need to do. Click here and tell me where you are right now and we’ll set up a time to discuss how I can help you so that you are up and running in no time.

I will also answer any more questions you may have about blogging.

I would love to talk to you soon.

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1 Adrienne
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January 19, 2016 at 9:19 am

Hey Dee Ann,

I could SO appreciate this conversation you had with Brent.

What he’s going through, so many others do as well and I think that’s why so many people get so discouraged. They purchase report, courses and products that don’t deliver and that’s money they had put aside to invest in their education to help them mover forward with creating their blogs and business. It’s discouraging when you take their advice because you don’t know better and get absolutely nowhere.

I’ve also spent a lot of money over the years but I’m one that is not afraid to ask for my money back. I do purchase things, I dive into it immediately and I get to work. If I don’t feel it’s benefiting me we usually have 30 days to get a refund. In my particular case I could quickly see that it was not worth the money I spent.

That are so many more coaches online today who have been through what we have who are more caring and helpful then those we dealt with in our earlier days. I think Brent is very fortunate to have found you and I hope when he’s up and running that we’ll work together as well. Sounds like he’s heading places and I’m so excited for him.

Thank you for sharing this conversation with us. I know so many others can probably relate as well. Hopefully we can both save them that heartache.

Enjoy your week.

~Adrienne
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2 Dee Ann Rice
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January 20, 2016 at 1:05 pm

Adrienne,

Finding help when we were starting out was really hard. At the time there seemed to be a few people who had actually made it and were selling all kinds of stuff telling everyone how to do what they had done. I decided later that they were not really telling us what they were doing but what they thought might work for other people. They did not want to sell their secrets.

I did return several things but sometimes did not get through the courses in time to get a refund. I was pretty careful to work on the more expensive purchases right away so I could return them if need be.

I really think things have changed enough now that new comers can find good help for a good price and get going very quickly.

It was definitely a different time on the internet when we started.

Thanks for your comment and have a great week.

Dee Ann
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3 Sherman Smith January 19, 2016 at 12:08 pm

Hey Dee Ann,

I would have appreciated your openness when I first started blogging.

I know a lot of newbies want real answer from real people like yourself. There’s a lot of scams out there and many have and will fall victim to them.

But you definitely want to find the right network of people to help you. Having a group like you were in is a clever idea! The idea of having a support team and cooperating with each other is by far the best thing that any newbie can do.

This was a great post and I know many will find it helpful and encouraging!

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4 Dee Ann Rice
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January 20, 2016 at 1:14 pm

Sheman,

I loved my group that I was in when I was starting out. We really saved each other from making some really bad decisions. We had a great time and most of us did not know any more then the other one did. We did a void many scams though because there was more than one set of eyes looking at everything. I think I am the only one out of that group still on the internet but I am still friends with a couple.

Scams are everywhere and if you do not fall victim to at least one you are lucky. I tried to watch and get out before I got to far in if I saw signs of a scam. That one coaching program was the worst because a internet guru was promoting it. I think we were all surprised when we found out that it was a scam. Many people has asked him lots of questions in his forum before ever purchasing the coaching and he had assured us of all this stuff none of which was truthful or maybe he was being lied to also. Supposedly he had gone and trained these coaches.

Thank you for stopping by my blog and for your comment. You have a great week.

Dee Ann

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5 Akaahan January 22, 2016 at 1:55 am

Hi Ann,

Your answers to Brent were smart and extremely professional…you did a great job :)

Like you, when I was starting out, I made a ton of mistakes – and got scammed in the process. For close to a year, I groped in the dark before figuring out how exactly I was supposed to blog and more importantly, how to make money with the process.

However, I would like to emphasize one thing you have already treated in the most brilliant manner: the importance of a blogging coach.

Sadly, many ‘quacks’ parade themselves as blogging coaches today…Brent should thus be super careful of who he chooses as a mentor (as one hardly overtakes his/her mentor, success wise).

However, I am comfortable with the two names I saw above – yours and Ms. Smith’s…you’ll both give him what he desires :)

Finally, I have discovered after blogging for more than 5 years that a coach may direct, but the ultimate learning lies with the student…if a student is lazy and unwilling, it is difficult to see how he/she will make progress…

Do make the day great, Ann.

Always,
Akaahan Terungwa

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6 Dee Ann Rice
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January 28, 2016 at 11:30 am

Akaahan,

Thank you. It is good to hear other people thought I answered the questions well.

Getting a coach is really the key to moving forward quickly in blogging. As you point though there are as many bad ones out there as good ones. I seem to have been able to find the bad ones better than I could the good ones. I eventually did find people who were able to help me but it took time.

I really think getting to know people through reading posts and commenting even before you have a blog is a great way to find good coaches. I did not know to do this. By doing this you will find people you can trust and through them find a great coach who will not rip you off.

Thank for your comment and very glad you finally made it through the maze and figured out how to blog and make money. Have a great week.

Dee Ann

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7 Donna Merrill January 25, 2016 at 10:39 pm

Hi Dee Ann,

Sounds like you’ve got Brent pointed in the right direction, here.

I think, with all the many many routes people can take online now, it’s almost a necessity to get coaching to really make sure you’re doing the right things as you work day and night on your “plan.”

I have no use for any of the “guru” coaches. I know many of them, I’ve worked with some. It’s like way overpaying for a “brand name” and you know what… almost none of them really deliver because they’re so busy doing other things.

I do coaching too, and I have several different levels of coaching, but not just for blogging. However, whenever somebody want to build any kind of an online business it almost always gets down to blogging at the core. Most of the time, I find that intermediate and advanced marketers come for coaching because they know enough to value it. Newbies often think they can just do it themselves and unfortunately, so many waste so much time and money until they either “get it” or the disappear.

Glad Brent found the right connection :)

-Donna
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8 Dee Ann Rice
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January 28, 2016 at 11:37 am

Donna,

I totally agree with you about the guru coaches. I have worked with some and bought coaching from others and never got everything that I was supposed to have paid for. They do not have the time to spend one on one because as you say they are way to busy doing lots of other things. I would definitely steer clear of a guru for a coach.

Coaching today is essential when doing anything online. There are so many choices and it is so involve that doing it on your own is very difficult.

I think your right, intermediate and advanced marketers will be far more willing to invest in coaching because they know they need help where the beginner in naive enough they think they can do it on their own as well as with a coach.

Thanks for your thoughts and for stopping by my blog.

Dee Ann

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